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It's definitely time. I also reached the "no patience/cares left to give" point.
Get him placed where he'll be safe and reclaim your sanity. You don't need to get bogged down with guilt or obligation because it's a necessary and right thing to do.
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Earthgrammy Dec 2021
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No one has addressed this so far. Be sure you have all the papers required to manage his affairs, POA, medical and financial, end of life wishes, there are many checklists, get everything signed, notarized now. Call Social Security and Medicare with him on the phone to allow you to access his account. Then as others have suggested, following surgery, sent to rehab or if they try to send him home, say you can not care for him at home and go straight to assisted or more likely memory care. Good luck, my 96 yr old Mom in memory care 4 years is my 5th experience caring for LO with dementia, it does not get better, they can't understand, their brains are broken.
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Earthgrammy Dec 2021
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It is time. If a person needs 24 hour care, one person cannot really do it--you must sleep, shower, etc. My SIL's FIL (no relation) was being "cared for" by his son 24/7. The son did as well as he could and thought things were OK. Then he got a call from the police. The father had awakened early, dressed and went to the 7-11. Unfortunately, he had put on 2 shirts and no pants! It could have been much worse. After that they placed him in memory care, even though they had really wanted to care for him themselves. There comes a point when 24 hour active supervision is necessary. You simply cannot do that yourself. Nobody can.

It's not your fault, but it is your responsibility to your husband to keep him and others safe from his failing mind. Try to comfort yourself that you have already done all that you possibly can do.
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Earthgrammy Dec 2021
Thank you so much.
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Earthgrammie,
I can soooo relate. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule but when he is not able to be safe and you are not safe caring for him. It's time. My husband is not quite as far as yours sounds. But I fear it's coming....
I am seeing some of the same types of behaviors with my 61 yo husband. It's as if he were still 25 and strong like bull... even with HX of two strokes,...He will drive up north and work himself almost to death at our cabin, or he will walk on the roof like it's sticky, or he'll climb ladders, use chainsaws and try to fix up 25 year old cars, bring greasy dirty tools inside our clean home... All the norms of our 40 years have gone out the window, logic and rational thinking is impaired.. but he can behave completely normally at times. Receptive communication is impaired and impulsiveness and strange things continue..... off and on gaah. Blessings.. this is a rough season. We are all with you. It really does help to vent.. sometimes I just pray pray for God's wisdom to be given to me...
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It is time. If you burn out and give up then there are two losses, you and him.
When there is care available use it.
When he is in a safe place, then your visits are in your control, if it is a good day and connection is there, great. If he is obstinate, tell him you have an appt and go.
You can't live with someone who is illogical and keep your sanity.
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I am so sorry so many people put up with so much and it should not be like that. When people's behaviors and needs start to overwhelm their caretakers and start destroying the lives of others around them, who would not be furious and lose it - very few would be able to tolerate this. You cannot repair or fix these people - they are damaged for whatever reasons. You cannot keep them - they lived their lives and you must take care of yourself. If they don't go to a facility voluntarily, then take appropriate action but get them placed. Don't wait. Do it now.
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Remember these two things.....their brains are broken and they will get worse and will never cooperate. And they made their bed, even if it is not their fault, and now they have to lie in it - you know what to do - so do it.
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If I could go back in time, I would just get the respite caregiver over my mom's loud objections and insistence that she didn't need anyone. Mom was mad at me anyway, almost all the time for crazy stuff that she made up inside her head. At least by bringing in the caregiver, she would have had a legitimate reason to be mad at me. We become crazy when we try to play by the old rules of letting the person who use to call the shots, still call the shots. They can't!

And, yes, it's time.
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Earthgrammy: In answer to your question as to whether it's time, it's well PAST time. Heaven forbid - your husband climbed a tall ladder and armed himself with a machete. Good grief - he could have been SERIOUSLY injured. Do not wait until he pulls a more serious stunt because his brain is broken. In fact, lock up tools and what could be considered a weapon, e.g. do not let him have access to these items!
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We sometimes focus on the illness and not the person we shared our lives with, your husband sounds like he likes to be doing things that are constructive. He feels the same way that you, your just lucky it didn't happen to you first, if it happens to you. My mother was a physical therapist, she was amazing with what she was able to do with people that doctors gave up on. So when her body started to fail her, and she could no longer manage doing the simple things like walk, get out of chairs, groom herself, and at 80 depended on me for all physical needs. I remember her looking at me, she was frustrated and had been sitting in the bathroom as I stood there, She said, "What a revolting development!" She had a good head on her shoulders, but her own body, after helping so many other gain back their range of motion, walk, moving from a locked position, her own body was beyond her repair. Her god-daughter came over and brought her coloring books, and colored pencils, as well as drawing pads. My mother used to paint pictures, of ships, lighthouses, the beach, the ocean, shore things. These pictures she colored became very important to her and she was so proud of them.
Your husband may need an channel his attention, you said he was trying to do things that fix or repair areas in and around your home. He may like to tinker with broken things and try to fix them, or some hobbies where you can buy a kit and construct a bird house, if there are things around the house that he can repair, alarm clocks, furniture that is made of wood and needs to be sanded and repainted. hinges on cabinets, door knobs, any type of fix it or build it type of things, this could be a solution to your feelings of being his only outlet, besides food and television. Remember that there are so many aspects to each of us, and because we lose the ability to think the way we used to and move the way we used to we still need to feel a sense of accomplishment. This is just my opinion, and advice, I hope it helps. Have a good night.
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How soon will the spinal surgery be; and will it be inpatient or outpatient? If you could get it to be inpatient and d/w doctor in advance to see whether he can ensure your husband could stay in for a few days, and then speak with the social services team to strongly advise that they will need to find placement for him, that he canNOT come home, then I would go that route. And if you need to be less "there" for him in the hospital and allow "the professionals" to get him situated and be away for him to settle into his new surroundings, I would try that route. And if you can go a further step perhaps and be away, perhaps out of town to relax and recuperate, it may be the best way for him to readjust. I wish you the best!
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It's not time. It's past the time. You will never be able to get someone with Dementia to agree with certain things regarding their care. You have to be their PARENT.
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Hello:
I apologize if this reply repeats other responses. From what I read, it seems like now is the time for your unfortunate husband to be placed in a facility. It is not an easy decision to make but his and your personal safety need to be considered.
This is my suggestion: The next time he falls, dial 911 and have him brought to the ER. You may have to insist he go. Once he is in the ER, tell everyone you encounter that you are no longer able to keep him safe at home. Tell the person who checks you in, the triage nurse, the nurse who cares for him in the ER, and the provider (either the physician or nurse practitioner, whichever one sees him) you are unable to keep him safe at home. Let them know all of his unsafe behaviors. Ask if there is a social worker to whom you can speak and get advice. Hopefully, he will be admitted for geriatric psych evaluation and following that, placed in a facility close enough for you to visit.
This sounds simple but it can be incredibly anxiety and guilt-provoking. There is no reason to feel guilty and yet that is what happens when we decide to take this step. Just keep reminding yourself about his unsafe behaviors and keep in mind how much worse you feel if something drastic were to happen at home.
We tried to keep our Mom at home but because of her dementia, she just could not be reasoned with. She wanted to continue to drive and live on her own but her unsafe behaviors would just not allow it. She has extreme memory loss and sundowning, which made her impossible to deal with every afternoon into the evening.
She is now in a very good facility and we go to visit frequently. Sadly, she still asks about when she will be going back home but we are afraid if we try it, we will be back to square one or worse.
I wish you all the best, I hope there is someone in the family or a friend or priest or pastor you can speak with for emotional support.
Thanks for reaching out!
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I just want to say thank you to you and everyone who replied on this forum. I am going through the same thing with my wife and was at my wits end. I read your situation and all the comments and felt hope. I began my search for AL/MC facilities yesterday and will continue the search next week. You all are a blessing to me for sharing your stories and situations. No one outside of the caregiver group mows the pain we feel. God Bless you all.
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